"The Cognitive Revolution" | AI Builders, Researchers, and Live Player Analysis Jake Sullivan on Navigating AI Uncertainty and Managing Competition with China
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Aug 9, 2025 
Jake Sullivan, U.S. National Security Advisor from 2021-2025, discusses AI as a vital national security matter. He introduces a four-category framework—security, economics, society, and technology—to assess AI's impact. Sullivan emphasizes 'managed competition' with China, arguing for intense rivalry coupled with conflict prevention measures. He raises concerns about the Pentagon's slow AI adoption while noting the private sector's significant role in AI development, hinting at the complexities of modern warfare shaped by this technology.
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Plan For Near-Term Possibility, Not Certainty
- Sullivan treats near-term transformative AI (e.g., by 2027) as a distinct possibility, not a foregone inevitability.
- He builds policy on planning assumptions while preserving flexibility as uncertainty remains high.
Demos Move People, Congress Waits For Impact
- Sullivan acknowledges demos influence minds but argues Congress mostly reacts to real-world harms.
- He warns that legislation often follows visible impacts rather than abstract demonstrations.
Four Buckets For Thinking About AI
- Jake Sullivan frames AI into four buckets: security, economics, society, and existential risks and opportunities.
- He urges concrete risk and opportunity mapping and acting where government can effectively intervene.