Hello my kweens, Happy International Women's Day and welcome back to another Sustainability Sunday episode. You know that I always start the episodes with a little update from my week and this week it was actually a really exciting one. My OG listeners will know that I am beyond obsessed with Botanika Blends protein powder, I literally have it in my oats every single morning and have had for legit the past 12 months. I ordered some online this week and when it arrived, it came in 100% biodegradable packaging which just absolutely made my little heart sing. I honestly don't know what I was more excited about - the fresh kilo of vanilla cake batter protein powder or the packaging that it came in. Either way, snaps to Botanika Blends for jumping on the sustainability bandwagon - they're so nice they've also offered Train Wreck listeners a cheeky little 15% discount when you shop online and use the code phoebe15 at the checkout., which I think is really cool, because going back to a point I made last week, i think a huge part of sustainability lies in consumer behaviour, so by actively choosing to spend your money at places that employ sustainable practices, and turning your back on those that don't, you're putting your money to good use. I'll pop the link and discount code below in this week's show notes, but I just wanted to share that one with you because I get so excited when big brands and brands that I love get involved and play their part.  So if you tuned in last week you would have caught my chat with Lee Constable. if you missed it, Lee is a television presenter, science communicator, biologist and an author who is best known or her work on channel 10s show Scope. SO last week Lee and I chatted about divestment and the role banking plays into sustainability, which really blew my mind and opened my eyes. And so this week we're chatting about eco-anxiety and how you can make small changes to feel empowered to create change instead of overwhelmed.  So just on that, while concern around climate change and waste reduction are required to a degree, I mean it does after all take a certain level of concern to then in turn action change - eco-anxiety is an all consuming anxiety about the enormity of the problem, as well as the guilt you might experience for any personal contributions you might be making to the problems. I don't think I have full blown eco anxiety but I do get very overwhelmed with how many things you can change to your life to be more sustainable, but it's very hard to do all of those at the same time. A good example is last week at home I was getting all flustered about buying rubbish bags for the bin because they're plastic and I'm working very very hard on reducing purchasing plastics, and despite the fact that I've made HUGE leway in terms of not using single use plastics of coffee cups etc, using produce bags at the supermarket, taking my keep cup and water bottle everywhere, I had so much guilt about the bin liners, then I reminded myself that you don't have to be perfect and just being 10% better really does help Anyway long story short, I ended up messaging Lottie from Banish and finding out you can buy biodegradable rubbish bags from Coles that are made from cornstarch so went out and bought them straight away and everything is fine again. But it really did make me think about how overwhelmed we can get when trying to be more sustainable. So without further adieu, let's welcome Lee back to the podcast...  Follow Phoebe on Instagram @phoebeacp or join the Train Wreck Podcast Community Facebook group.  Want to hear more Phoebe? Listen to Phoebe, Shad & Tom podcast.  

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