Opening Arguments

PROSECUTE AND ABOLISH ICE

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Jan 9, 2026
Hosts dive into the shocking details of a Minneapolis ICE killing, contrasting community reactions and patterns of violence by ICE officers. They discuss the complexities of federal immunity, exploring legal options for state prosecution. The conversation shifts to the anniversary of January 6th, critiquing attempts to rewrite its history, and the implications of recent pardons for those involved. They end by addressing an ethical controversy surrounding a lawyer's claims of being a U.S. Attorney, highlighting the weaknesses and potential reforms in the justice system.
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ANECDOTE

Minneapolis Legal Observer Killing

  • Matt and Thomas recount multiple ICE shootings this year culminating in the killing of a U.S. citizen in Minneapolis.
  • They describe the victim as a legal observer trying to protect neighbors who was shot in the street.
INSIGHT

Bodycam Contradicts Initial ICE Claims

  • ICE often claims officers were rammed or dragged by vehicles, but bodycam footage repeatedly contradicts those narratives.
  • Early official statements can mislead investigations and protect officers from scrutiny.
ADVICE

Encourage State Prosecutions Against Federal Officers

  • State prosecutors can still file criminal charges against federal officers and should pursue them despite immunity defenses.
  • Bring charges to force judicial review of whether the act fell within federal duties and exigency exceptions.
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