Practices of Presence and Why They Matter: A Conversation With Carl Rabke and Erin Geesaman Rabke

In this podcast, we dive into one of our favorite topics: practices of presence and why they matter.

This is the first in a series of three podcasts on practices of presence, practices of depth and soul, and practices of reconnection and remembrance, and why they each matter. These three interweaving spheres and practices are the foundation of the curriculum for our 13-month Refugia training program that begins in February 2026.

How important it is to have practices that help us remember and return to presence over and over through the day!

We speak of growing an embodied ground, and how movement can either deepen the sense of split and objectification, (doing something to our body) or can deepen intimacy with life – through embodiment. We speak of how when we learn how to learn, and learn how to deepen presence through movement, this can touch every aspect of our lives. We speak about our approach to meditation (not mind control!) and the importance in this speedy world of taking time for stillness, silence, and spaciousness. We speak of the present moment as being vast enough to hold the past and future, to hold the ancestors and future ones.

So many rich topics, quotes, and practices in this conversation. We hope you might enjoy it as much as we did.

To find out more about our Refugia training, you can visit https://embodimentmatters.com/refugia/

To join us in our weekday online embodied meditation practice, you can visit https://embodimentmatters.com/meditation/