

After Stockholm: What's Next for US-China Trade Talks?
Aug 5, 2025
Scott Kennedy, a senior advisor at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, dives deep into the tumultuous waters of US-China trade relations. He discusses the lessons learned from the Trump administration and how they shape ongoing negotiations. Kennedy assesses who's truly winning the trade war and explores China's strategic use of rare earth commodities amidst tariffs. The conversation also unpacks the intricate issues surrounding transshipment and market access as both nations navigate their complex economic relationship.
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Chinese View of Trump as Dealmaker
- The Chinese see Trump as a dealmaker focused on making deals rather than on deal content.
- They believe he is relatively non-ideological except in his strong interest in tariffs.
Rare Earths Distract Trade Talks
- Trade talks have focused on rare earth magnet supply, distracting from core issues like industrial policy.
- China feels confident leveraging its rare earth dominance to delay substantive negotiations.
Both Sides Feel Winning Leverage
- Both China and the U.S. feel they're doing well and believe they can claim victory.
- China is not yet worried about US deals with other countries to isolate it due to lack of concrete measures.