Semantic HTML still matters with Jono Alderson

Oct 8, 2025

Jono Alderson, an SEO consultant and web performance expert, delves into why semantic HTML should still be a priority today. He highlights how proper markup enhances accessibility and site performance while addressing the pitfalls of 'div soup.' Jono discusses the significance of template-centric design and its impact on user experience. He also examines structured data's evolving role, the implications of lazy rendering, and how thoughtful markup can boost discoverability in the age of LLMs. A treasure trove of insights for web developers!

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INSIGHT

Web Is At An Inflection Point

We are at an inflection point where the nature of the web and what a "page" is may change rapidly.
Hedge bets by supporting current HTML best practices while preparing for JSON/API-driven futures.

ANECDOTE

How Markup Shaped His SEO Career

Jono traced his roots from PHP web development to SEO consulting, focusing on tiny markup details that affect business outcomes.
He learned that every tag, byte, and header can impact visits and revenue for small businesses.

ADVICE

Optimize For Accessibility And Market Share

Prioritize semantic HTML to unlock accessibility for ~10–15% of users and gain market share.
Improve markup to reach those customers rather than relying solely on heavy client-side JavaScript.

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Jono Alderson joins the podcast to discuss why semantic HTML still matters today. He shares how thoughtful markup can improve accessibility and performance, from using the picture tag and responsive images to optimizing with content-visibility CSS. The conversation dives into common pitfalls like div soup, the shift toward more template-centric design, and techniques for improving the critical rendering path. Jono also discusses preloading, HTTP early hints, and the evolving role of structured data, LLMs, and Google’s trust signals in shaping a more meaningful and efficient web.

Links

Website: https://www.jonoalderson.com
X: https://x.com/jonoalderson
BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/jono.id
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonoalderson

Resources

Why semantic HTML still matters: https://www.jonoalderson.com/conjecture/why-semantic-html-still-matters/

Chapters

00:40 Meet Jono Alderson: SEO Consultant and Web Performance Expert
02:00 Why Semantic HTML Still Matters in 2025
05:00 Accessibility, Performance, and the 15% Market Opportunity
08:00 The Cost of Div Soup and Framework Abstraction
10:30 Finding Balance: Developer Experience vs User Experience
13:00 Template-Centric Thinking vs Component-Centric Development
16:00 What Is a Page? Rethinking How the Web Works
18:30 Structured Data, Schema.org, and Google’s Trust Signals
21:00 Quick Round: Picture Tag, Content Visibility, and Performance
23:30 The Worst HTML Anti-Patterns Developers Still Use
25:00 Will LLMs Reward Good Markup or Ignore It?
26:00 Where to Find Jono Alderson and Closing Thoughts

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