TPP 409: Dr. Matt Zakreski on Cracking the Code of Living in a Neurotypical World
Oct 15, 2024
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Dr. Matt Zakreski, a clinical psychologist and co-founder of The Neurodiversity Collective, discusses his latest book, the 'Neurodiversity Playbook,' which aims to empower neurodivergent individuals. He emphasizes the importance of grounding conversations in neuroscience and shares practical tips for navigating everyday challenges in a neurotypical world. From advocating for better community support to using humor and purpose in parenting, this conversation offers invaluable insights into embracing neurodiversity and fostering understanding.
Dr. Matt Zakreski's book emphasizes the importance of grounding discussions in neuroscience to foster understanding of neurodivergent experiences.
The conversation highlights practical strategies for navigating everyday social challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals, empowering them to engage authentically.
Deep dives
Upcoming Free Virtual Book Club
A free virtual book club for parents focusing on the book 'Differently Wired' is announced, encouraging participation from those interested in supporting neurodivergent children. The sessions will occur three consecutive Wednesdays at 2 p.m. Eastern, starting on October 30th, 2023. Attendees can gain insights into applying concepts from the book to their lives and will receive a downloadable workbook consisting of 62 pages. This opportunity promotes community building among parents seeking to create positive change in the lives of their neurodivergent kids.
Neurodiversity Playbook Overview
The conversation dives into Dr. Matt Zekreski's new book, 'Neurodiversity Playbook,' designed to help neurodivergent individuals navigate a predominantly neurotypical world. The book emphasizes embracing neurodiversity, providing validation and practical strategies to help readers understand their experiences and design their lives on their own terms. Key topics covered include the significance of grounding discussions in neuroscience and addressing everyday challenges, such as making small talk and knowing how to leave events. Dr. Zekreski advocates for using code-switching as an empowering tool to engage with neurotypical culture while maintaining one's authentic self.
Understanding Neurodivergence Through Personal Experience
Dr. Zekreski shares insights from his personal journey as a gifted child diagnosed with a PhD, expressing a profound understanding of the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals. He illustrates how feeling different growing up can lead to questions about societal norms and rules, as exemplified by a conversation regarding appropriate clothing in a college environment. By encouraging open dialogues and explaining the reasoning behind social rules, he highlights the importance of fostering understanding among neurotypical individuals about neurodivergent experiences. This validation helps neurodivergent people feel seen and understood, facilitating better communication and acceptance.
Navigating Real-Life Social Situations
One of the most impactful chapters of Zekreski's book focuses on handling everyday social situations, such as small talk, hanging out with friends, and leaving social events. Drawing from his therapy practice, he identifies common concerns faced by neurodivergent clients and aims to provide practical solutions for these real-life challenges. By sharing relatable anecdotes and strategies, he demystifies the complexities of social interactions and offers readers a clear path forward. This approach normalizes the anxiety associated with these situations and empowers neurodivergent individuals to feel more confident in navigating their social environments.
My guest for today’s show is likely no stranger to you. He’s been on the podcast before, we’ve co-hosted special live events focused on the mental health crisis among neurodivergent kids, and he’s a key figure in the differently wired revolution. Through his speaking engagements, work as a therapist for kids and adults, and his own lived experience as a neurodivergent individual, he’s a powerful advocate for understanding and supporting neurodivergent students.
Yes, I’m talking about Dr. Matt Zakreski. Today, I’m thrilled to have him back to dive into his brand-new book, Neurodiversity Playbook: How Neurodivergent People Can Crack the Code of Living in a Neurotypical World. Full disclosure: I wrote the foreword for this book, and I was honored to do so because it’s such a valuable resource for so many people. In the foreword, and what I’ll share with you now, is that Matt’s book encourages readers to embrace the full neurodivergent experience, offering deep understanding, validation, and a wealth of practical ideas to help “crack the code” and design a life on their own terms. Neurodiversity Playbook feels like a warm “welcome to the Club” for neurodivergent individuals and those who love and support them.
In this conversation, while we couldn’t cover everything in the book, we touched on some of the big concepts, including why grounding discussions in neuroscience is key to understanding neurodivergence, how to navigate tricky everyday situations like making small talk, and how awareness of neurodiversity has evolved over the years. We also explored code-switching as an empowering tool and how to do it with intention and choice.
About Dr. Matt Zakresk
Matthew “Dr. Matt” Zakreski, PsyD is a high energy, creative clinical psychologist and professional speaker who utilizes an eclectic approach to meet the specific needs of his neurodivergent clients. He is proud to serve the Gifted community as a consultant, a professor, an author, and a researcher. He has spoken hundreds of times all over the world about supporting neurodivergent kids. He is the co-founder of The Neurodiversity Collective and the author of the The Neurodiversity Playbook: How Neurodivergent People Can Crack the Code of Living in a Neurotypical World.
Things you'll learn from this episode
How Dr. Matt's personal journey informs his professional work and shapes his approach to neurodiversity.
How neurodiversity awareness has significantly evolved over the years and there is significant progress in understanding.
How grounding discussions in neuroscience is crucial for understanding neurodivergence.
How the Neurodiversity Playbook aims to be a practical guide to help neurodivergent humans navigate a neurotypical world.
How code-switching can be a useful tool for neurodivergent individuals and enhance their ability to adapt.
Why compromise is essential for fostering understanding and bridging communication gaps between neurodivergent and neurotypical people.