When Lisa and I first came across Elise Loehnen's most recent work, On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good, we were taken by the many parallels between Elise's explanation of women's emotional repression and our own work with the TMS community. Elise has written a masterful book that deconstructs the many reasons that women struggle to be heard, both by others and themselves. The synergy between Elise's work and ours is profound. Join us as we chat all together (Lisa and I in our dual interviewing debut!) on how “Niceness”, “Compliance”, “People Pleasing”, “Conflict Avoidance”, and “Sublimated and Unprocessed Anger” are correlated with Cancer, ALS, autoimmune illnesses, and many more. Plus, we discuss Elise's own experience with TMS in the form of chronic hyperventilation and jaw pain. We were thrilled to welcome Elise onto the pod. Enjoy, and go pick up her book. It's incredible. XOOX n.

Producer: Lisa Eisenpresser

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