The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show

376. Inside Industrial Strategy, Alternative Assets & Private Credit with Clarion Partners’ Rick Schaupp

Jan 27, 2026
Richard (Rick) Schaupp, Clarion Partners managing director focused on industrial, alternatives, and private credit. He discusses industrial’s evolution to high-tech logistics hubs. He explores private credit’s role in portfolios and diversification. Data centers, senior housing, and industrial outdoor storage come up as noteworthy opportunity areas.
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ANECDOTE

Architect Turned Real Estate Executive

  • Rick fell in love with architecture and trained as an architect before moving into real estate and business school.
  • He joined Clarion after business school and progressed through development, asset management, and portfolio roles over decades.
INSIGHT

Industrial & Alternatives Drove Resilience

  • Clarion's overweight in industrial and alternatives insulated it during COVID and reduced exposure to troubled office assets.
  • The firm also prioritizes expanding private wealth access to private real estate products.
INSIGHT

Private Credit Complements Equity

  • Private credit provides shorter-duration income and liquidity complements to equity within private real estate portfolios.
  • It fills lending gaps where traditional lenders stop and can solve construction and capital stack problems.
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