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#110 Jim Collins: Relationships vs. Transactions

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May 4, 2021

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Jim Collins

In this engaging discussion, Jim Collins, a renowned researcher and author of celebrated works like Good to Great, shares insights gained from his mentor, Bill Lazier. He underscores the importance of prioritizing relationships over transactions and highlights how meaningful connections can define a fulfilling life. Jim reflects on mentorship, fatherhood, and the complexities of decision-making in leadership. He also delves into the concept of embracing ambiguity in entrepreneurship, challenging traditional notions of risk and safety.

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Lazier's Mentorship

Jim Collins discusses Bill Lazier's mentorship, highlighting his genuine interest and guidance.
Lazier shaped Collins' character and values without personal agendas.

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ADVICE

Choosing Mentors

Read biographies to learn from others' life arcs and form a personal "board of directors."
Choose members based on character, not success, to guide your values.

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INSIGHT

Relationships vs. Transactions

Prioritize building relationships over transactions for a truly great life.
A great relationship is one where both individuals feel they benefit more.

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Renowned researcher and author Jim Collins makes his second appearance on The Knowledge Project, this time to share a wealth of life lessons learned from his mentor and collaborator, Bill Lazier. Jim recently released BE 2.0 (Beyond Entrepreneurship 2.0), an ambitious upgrade of his first book Beyond Entrepreneurship, co-authored with Lazier and focused on effective leadership style. Shane discusses all new topics with Jim in their follow-up conversation, including what it means to be a mentor and a father, why we should trust by default, why we confuse living a long life with a great life, and the difference between being afraid of risk and being afraid of ambiguity.

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