In this discussion, Elizabeth Lopatto, Verge's deputy editor and NFT expert, unpacks the NFT phenomenon, explaining its unique ownership models and impact on the creative economy. Dan Seifert, also a deputy editor, provides insights on the latest gadgets, including the Sonos Roam Bluetooth speaker and the Asus ROG Phone 5. Their conversation spans topics like the environmental concerns of NFTs, the merging of audio technology with cars, and the shifting consumer preferences driven by the pandemic.