Avoiding Babylon What a Woman Is - w/ Tim Gordon and Mike Pantile
A cold open with tech chaos turned into one of our most honest conversations about how a fringe thesis became a full‑scale cultural confrontation. We chart the path from announcing The Case for Patriarchy in 2019, to fiery debates that shocked polite company, to a 90‑minute documentary that platforms loved visually but refused to touch because the ideas cut against the grain.
We dig into where the argument lands: authority in the home and church, why “mutual submission” scrambles roles, and how that confusion seeps into liturgy, music, and parish life. Ephesians 5 isn’t a relic; it’s a blueprint. We talk about the early Church disciplining male lust, why Christian marriage is uniquely monogamous and indissoluble, and why the modern crisis now centers on courage—men saying no when it matters, and women choosing holiness aligned with a husband’s headship or a consecrated vocation. The goal isn’t online chest‑thumping; it’s ordered love, clear duty, and beauty that elevates the soul.
We also take a hard look at the red‑pill economy. Yes, it names real wounds, but too often it slides into cynicism, limited hangouts, and content that monetizes vice. We offer a different path for Zoomers and millennials drowning in black‑pill threads: build strength, cultivate virtue, join real brotherhoods, and pursue a hopeful, realistic approach to marriage. Not every past mistake is disqualifying; lead well and many women will follow. At the parish level, fix the music, preach the hard texts, and stop outsourcing leadership to committees that smother clarity.
If you’ve felt the cultural shift around feminism and patriarchy but wanted substance, story, and stakes, this film is our best case—shot beautifully, paced to hold your attention, and blunt where it needs to be. Watch the premiere for $1.99 at 10 a.m. CST on candaceowens.com, then tell us what we got right, what we missed, and where you want us to take this next. If the conversation moves you, subscribe, share the episode, and leave a review so more people can find it.
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