Dmitri Tymoczko, Professor of Music at Princeton University, explores the geometry and patterns in music and its history, including the influence of non-Western music on jazz and popular music. He analyzes the mathematical aspect of rap music and discusses the challenges faced in replacing traditional classical music in the early 1900s.
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Music is fundamentally about symmetry and playing with symmetry, with composers intelligently deploying relationships and structures to create rich perceptual symmetries.
The history of music showcases a cyclical pattern of complexity and simplicity, as composers push the boundaries of musical structures before transitioning to simpler forms that resonate more widely.
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Music as a Symphony of Symmetry
Music is fundamentally about symmetry and playing with symmetry. The repetition of musical ideas is a form of symmetry that is widely appreciated, but transformational repetition, where musical ideas are repeated with variations, is where things get interesting. Composers intelligently deploy relationships and structures, even if listeners are not always directly sensitive to them. The mathematics of music points to the importance of symmetrical structures and how they can create a rich set of perceptual symmetries. This symmetrical play in music can transport us to otherworldly places and create deeply enjoyable and mysterious musical experiences.
The Complexity of 20th Century Composition
The 20th century brought about a fracturing of classical music, with different countries and composers embracing various approaches. Many classical composers, influenced by scientific and technological advancements, began rethinking conventional musical practices. This period saw the rise of atonal music, where mathematical structures became more prominent. However, this complex music, while intellectually intriguing, often failed to resonate with a wide audience. The tension between the technical mechanisms used to construct compositions and the aesthetic responses listeners have highlights a disconnect that raises philosophical questions about musical appreciation.
Mathematical Structures and Listener Sensitivity
Some music exhibits complex mathematical structures that are not always perceptible to listeners. Pieces that are highly organized and intricate from a compositional perspective may not be fully appreciated due to our limited ability to discern those structural complexities. However, this does not render the music inherently 'bad' or unenjoyable. Musical preferences are diverse, and what one person finds pleasurable may be different from another. Additionally, there is music that breaks away from mathematical rules, focusing more on gesture, rhythm, and evocative qualities rather than explicit structural frameworks.
The Cycle of Complexity and Simplicity
Throughout the history of music, there is a cyclical pattern of complexity and simplicity. Composers often push the boundaries of musical structures, leading to intricate and elaborate compositions. However, this complexity can eventually exceed the limits of listener sensitivity and enjoyment. As a result, a transition occurs, and music reverts to simpler forms that resonate more widely. This pattern is observed in various genres, from classical to jazz to rock, illustrating the ebb and flow between complex and straightforward musical expressions.
Today we're joined by Dmitri Tymoczko, Professor of Music at Princeton University. Dmitri will talk about the geometry and patterns we hear in music, as well as explore its history, particularly from the 1900s onwards.