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The eleventh and final episode in conversation with Wendy Painting, author of Aberration in the Heartland of the Real: The Secret Lives of Timothy McVeigh. In this episode, we discuss the Oklahoma City Bombing as American Gladio, a strategy of tension scenario in which terror is used as social conditioning.

(note, to record 11 episodes, at certain points we were both getting quite tired, so neither of us might be at our most eloquent)

Then, Wendy Painting discusses her literary influences, the events that inspired her to write, her views as an author, and so forth. To cap it off, we discuss why there are multiple versions of her book and she explains the issues she's faced with her publisher.

Wendy Painting's Kofi:

https://ko-fi.com/wendyspainting

series art by @r.voy_ (building upon the original illustration by Bobby Joe Crouch

Bonus Episode 41 songs:

Guayaquil by Los Hermanos Gutiérrez

Doctor Jeep by Sisters of Mercy

the Vanishing American Family by Scuba Z

Links:

www.patreon.com/programmedtochill

https://programmed-to-chill.myshopify.com/