In 2014, a few months after Ryan Holiday released his first book on Stoicism, The Obstacle Is the Way, another young author, Rupi Kaur, self-published her first book, milk and honey. Her collection of poems quickly became a huge success, becoming one of the highest-selling poetry books of the 21st century. Now, 10 years later, Ryan and Rupi reflect on the ups and downs that followed the releases of The Obstacle Is the Way and milk and honey. Rupi shares with Ryan what it was like revisiting her work from 10 years ago, why she initially thought publishing milk and honey was a huge mistake, and profound moments she has experienced with her audience around the world.

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