
What in the World The darker side behind scam texts
Dec 4, 2025
Jonathan Head, a BBC Southeast Asia correspondent, brings his on-the-ground insights about the dark world of scam text operations in Myanmar. He reveals how thousands are trapped in scam centres, often facing exploitation and violence. The conversation touches on the shocking concept of 'pig butchering' scams and how victims are manipulated into these schemes. Mwesezi, a young man from Uganda, shares his harrowing story of being trafficked and forced into scamming. The discussion also highlights the challenges in shutting down these operations amidst civil unrest and corruption.
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Don't Click Or Engage Unknown Contacts
- Avoid clicking links in unexpected texts, emails or calls claiming to be your bank.
- Do not engage unknown DMs that press toward investments or personal contact.
Scam Centres Are Purpose-Built Cities
- Scam centres are Chinese-built mini-cities in conflict zones that host large-scale fraud operations.
- They exploit weak governance and local armed groups to operate with impunity.
Conflict Enables Organized Fraud
- Criminal syndicates exploit Myanmar's civil war and porous borders to run scam hubs.
- They bribe or collaborate with armed groups who protect and profit from the operations.

