

It's Supposed to Be Hard.
Sep 30, 2025
David Goggins, an ultramarathoner and retired Navy SEAL, joins fellow former Navy SEAL Jocko Willink, clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson, and entrepreneur Alex Hormozi to discuss the importance of embracing suffering for personal growth. They delve into the necessity of staying in discomfort for learning, the power of relentless work ethic, and the value of self-discipline. Goggins emphasizes taking bold, courageous actions while Peterson highlights the significance of resilience and character-building through adversity. The conversation inspires listeners to redefine success as persistent growth rather than mere achievements.
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Embrace Daily Hardship
- Do something hard regularly to build mental toughness and embrace the burn.
- Keep going when it hurts because difficulty is the filter for commitment.
Pain As A Learning Catalyst
- Facing struggle intentionally forces growth and reveals skills you must learn.
- Staying in pain catalyzes adaptation rather than pulling the parachute early.
Use Discipline To Build Strength
- Do uncomfortable work consistently to calm your mind and build perseverance.
- Execute by forcing yourself into tasks you avoid because repetition creates strength.