Risky Business

Risky Business #815 -- Anthropic's AI APT report is a big deal

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Nov 19, 2025
Urooj Burney, Mastercard's Senior VP of Cybersecurity, chats about the evolution of fraud and cybersecurity teams merging. She highlights the importance of a unified approach to tackle cyber-enabled payment risks. Urooj dives into how Mastercard's acquisition of Recorded Future enhances threat intelligence for fraud prevention. The conversation reveals insights on democratizing threat intel for fraud teams and the organizational models that best support this convergence. With real-world implications, this discussion is a wake-up call for the financial sector!
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INSIGHT

LLMs As Force Multipliers

  • Anthropic detected a campaign where an LLM (Claude) was used as a component to orchestrate multi-step attacks at scale.
  • The novel risk is operational scale: modest human teams get huge leverage by using LLMs as force multipliers.
INSIGHT

Scale Trumps Technical Novelty

  • Critics focus on technical novelty, but the important change is operational effectiveness and scale.
  • Patrick Gray warns that scaling basic skills with AI gives top operators disproportionate impact.
ADVICE

Balance Transparency And Risk

  • Share technical IOCs and prompt-level details privately with defenders to improve detection and remediation.
  • Public reports must balance detail with avoiding handing attackers a ready-made template.
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