Join Alex Stamos, former CISO for Facebook and Yahoo, and Chris Krebs, ex-director of CISA, as they dive into the intriguing world of AI and its geopolitical implications. They discuss the controversial DeepSeek AI model and its potential impact on cybersecurity. The duo analyzes the skepticism surrounding AI innovations and examines the contrasting regulatory approaches in Europe and the U.S. Don't miss their insights on privacy rights, market dynamics, and the future of AI innovation amidst growing international tensions.

Braden Rogers, Chief Customer Officer at Island, discusses the pressing challenges of AI data exposure. He dives into the emotional toll recent cyber incidents have had on the tech community. The conversation also highlights the complexities of managing unstructured data in enterprises and the increasing necessity of robust security measures as large language models become ubiquitous. Additionally, Braden critiques existing protections against prompt injection attacks while advocating for smarter data governance strategies.

Fletcher Heisler, CEO of Authentik and a leader in open-source identity solutions, dives into the power of self-hosted identity management. He explains how users are reclaiming control from traditional SaaS providers like Okta. The discussion highlights Authentik's flexibility and adaptability for businesses, whether on-premises or in the cloud. Fletcher emphasizes user-driven development, security through transparency, and the importance of backup strategies, making a strong case for the future of open-source identity solutions.

Edward Wu, Founder and CEO of Dropzone.AI, shares insights on leveraging AI to improve security operations at SOCs. He discusses the rise in cybersecurity threats connected to sensitive data access, especially concerning the controversies surrounding Musk's DOGE team. The conversation delves into the evolving practices in cloud security and the shift from reactive to proactive measures against cybercrime. Wu emphasizes how AI can handle tedious tasks, allowing human analysts to focus on critical insights and better tackle emerging cyber risks.

Josh Kamdjou, co-founder and CEO of Sublime Security, dives into the significant challenges facing email security. He discusses how attackers exploit trusted platforms like DocuSign for phishing campaigns. The conversation also touches on recent cybersecurity breaches, the complexities of managing government IT systems, and the necessity for advanced detection methods in email security. Kamdjou highlights the continuous evolution of scammers’ tactics and the importance of robust defenses to safeguard sensitive information.

Luke Jennings, a security researcher at Push Security, dives into the pitfalls of federated authentication, emphasizing how attackers exploit unexpected identity providers. He highlights alarming vulnerabilities in SonicWall devices and a comical DNS mishap involving MasterCard. The discussion also touches upon the risks of using personal Google accounts for corporate access and the complexities of managing multiple identity providers. With an eye on emerging threats, Jennings provides insights into securing user authentication in today's digital landscape.

Craig Rowland, founder of Sandfly Security, brings his expertise in Linux EDR solutions to the conversation. He discusses the pressing challenges in Linux security monitoring, emphasizing the lack of standardized detection and response methods. The podcast also examines political influences on cybersecurity during the Trump administration and the implications of recent U.S. policies. Key topics include the complexities of securing Linux systems compared to Windows and addressing vulnerabilities in critical infrastructure. Tune in for insights into how organizations can fortify their defenses!

Michael Fey, CEO of Island, shares insights on their innovative enterprise browser designed for compliance and security. He discusses clever ways the browser meets cybersecurity and regulatory challenges, particularly around user access and GDPR. The conversation also delves into the risks of using Gen.ai chatbots in corporate settings and how a specialized browser can enhance secure collaborations during mergers and acquisitions. Fey's engaging take on compliance makes it a surprisingly fun listen!

Robby Winchester from SpecterOps, a leading cybersecurity firm renowned for its penetration testing expertise, joins the discussion. He shares insights on the evolution of penetration testing, highlighting the growing importance of identity-centric approaches. The conversation also dives into the recent resurgence of the Cl0p ransomware crew and their alarming hacks. The hosts critique the SEC's uninspiring cyber incident reporting rule and examine the implications of vulnerabilities within Java enterprise software, emphasizing the pressing challenges in today's cybersecurity landscape.

In this edition of the Wild World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray sits down with SentinelOne’s Chief Intelligence and Public Policy Officer Chris Krebs to talk all about Chinese cyber operations. They look at the Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon campaigns, the last 20 years of Chinese operations, and the evolution of the cyber roles of China’s Ministry of State Security and People’s Liberation Army. It’s a very dense hour of conversation! This podcast was recorded in front of an audience at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Sydney. This episode is also available on Youtube. Show notes