In this conversation, Ben Herring shares his journey from a professional rugby player to a coach, public speaker, and author. He discusses the importance of personal growth, the art of public speaking, and the cultural dynamics within coaching. 

Herring emphasizes the need for coaches to adapt to the changing landscape of rugby and the significance of building connections with players. He also reflects on the role of head coaches in managing teams and the importance of aligning philosophies across organizations. In this conversation, 

Ben and Jay discuss the multifaceted nature of coaching, emphasizing the importance of diversity, conflict, and personal development within coaching teams. Ben reflects on his experiences with Steve Hansen, highlighting the significance of authenticity and effective communication in leadership. The discussion also touches on the value of feedback and learning from mistakes.

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