

Madeleine Thien Reads Yoko Ogawa
Nov 20, 2023
Madeleine Thien, a writer, reads and discusses Yoko Ogawa's 2004 story 'The Cafeteria in the Evening and a Pool in the Rain' on The New Yorker Fiction Podcast. Thien admires Ogawa's ability to tap into something beyond language, explores the protagonist's relationship with a dog, speculates on the identities of the characters, and discusses the ending's positive tone despite not being a fairytale ending.
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Introduction
00:00 • 2min
Discovering Yoko Ogawa's Mysterious Writing
01:38 • 4min
A Foggy Morning in a New House
05:12 • 28min
Reminiscing Swimming Class Struggles
33:24 • 13min
Solitude and Transition
46:14 • 2min
The Protagonist's Relationship with Her Dog
48:18 • 9min
Interpreting the Man's Stories and Speculating on Identity
57:14 • 12min
Exploring the Fictional World and Characters
01:09:19 • 3min