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Why Don’t We Think Anymore? The Lost Art of Thinking with Scott Burgmeyer & Tammy Rogers

Jan 7, 2026
In this engaging discussion, Scott Burgmeyer, co-founder of Become More Group and author, teams up with Tammy Rogers, also co-founder and a leadership development expert. They tackle the decline of deep thinking in workplaces, highlighting how busy lives lead to surface-level thoughts. Scott’s Swiss cheese analogy illustrates how systemic flaws can result in poor decisions, while Tammy emphasizes the value of structured reflection. They introduce practical frameworks like ROADD, urging leaders to cultivate intentional thinking for better decision-making.
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INSIGHT

Depth Beats Data Quantity

  • Organizations are drowning in data but only thinking as deep as a parking lot puddle.
  • Better thinking, not more data, often drives the biggest business improvements.
INSIGHT

Questioning Why People Don't Think

  • The hosts noticed a recurring problem: people at work increasingly don't use the gray matter between their ears.
  • Asking why became the catalyst for writing Think: The Road Less Traveled.
ANECDOTE

Expensive Shipping Mistake Teaches A Lesson

  • Scott shared a costly logistics mistake where materials were express-shipped multiple times instead of using a cheap suitcase.
  • The team analyzed costs and learned to check simple, cheap alternatives to avoid repeat pain.
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