

Ep. 244: Censoring lawmakers, T-shirts, and seashells
We discuss the Supreme Court backing Maine lawmaker Laurel Libby, NPR filing suit against Trump, a years-long dispute over a student wearing a “there are only two genders” shirt, the Secret Service investigation into James Comey, the latest on Harvard vs. Trump, and more.
Guests:
Bob Corn-Revere — chief counsel, FIRE
Lee Levine — former senior counsel, Ballard Spahr
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
03:34 Censure of Rep. Libby
07:02 Supreme Court shadow docket
13:53 NPR lawsuit against Trump admin
19:07 Differences between NPR and Voice of America cases
30:50 Middle school student wearing “there are only two genders” shirt
48:54 Recent investigation into former FBI Director James Comey
55:46 Latest updates with Harvard and Trump
01:05:27 Outro
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Show notes:
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“Ep. 56 have you been defamed?” Lee Levine’s previous appearance on the show (2018)
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“Supreme Court backs Republican lawmaker in Maine who was punished for transgender athlete remarks” NBC (2025)
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“NPR and Colorado public radio stations lawsuit against Trump administration” NPR (2025)
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“Ending taxpayer subsidization of biased media” The White House (2025)
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L. M. v. Town of Middleborough, Massachusetts Justia (2024)
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Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District FIRE (1969)
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“Secret Service is asking Comey about a photo of seashells spelling ‘86 47’” The New York Times (2025)
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“The promise of American higher education” Alan Garber (2025)