Before Church and State | Dr. Andrew Willard Jones
Jun 5, 2024
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Dr. Andrew Willard Jones discusses evolving Catholic political thought towards post-liberalism, societal structures' roles, state sovereignty in human relationships, law, virtue, and governance in medieval society. He explores promoting peace, undoing sin, and countering liberalism through spiritual means.
Post-liberalism challenges liberal assumptions on autonomy and utility maximization in politics.
Non-liberal societal architectures view state sovereignty as managing inherent human conflict structurally.
Christianity values real relationships over abstract quantification, defying liberal norms and fostering virtue.
Deep dives
Transition in Catholic Political Thought
The post-war dream of a Catholic-friendly liberalism has lost credibility, leading to new directions in Catholic political thought. Post-liberalism challenges the assumptions of liberalism, questioning the idea of autonomous individuals and the role of politics in maximizing individual utility. National conservatives prioritize the nation-state for social cohesion, a Christian left critiques capitalism's moral impact, and integralist movements advocate for a confessional state or supernatural end orientation.
Structures of Society and Anthropological Assumptions
Contrary to the machine model, society is portrayed as architecturally interlinked with anthropological assumptions. The view expands beyond modified liberal structures to consider non-liberal societal architectures from pre-liberal societies. The concept of state sovereignty as a structural component in managing inherent human conflict contrasts with the liberal perspective, emphasizing a society where form and function are indivisible.
State Sovereignty and Legal Frameworks in Modern Politics
In modern politics, the state holds a monopoly on legitimate force, deciding its utilization based on established procedures. The assumption of primordial violence underlies Hobbes' perspective on state sovereignty, tying human interactions to power structures and legal frameworks. The liberal interpretation sees a centralized registry of rights and contracts, extending state control over societal relationships.
Christianity's Anthropology of Peace and Real Relationships
In contrast to liberalism's technical approach, Christianity values real, qualitative relationships enhancing differentiation and peace. The family, based on duties, sacrifices, and love, defies liberal norms of abstract and quantified relations. Central to pre-liberal Christian societies, such relationships embodied a hierarchy fostering virtue and actualizing the common good.
Contrasting Worldviews: City of God vs. City of Man
The dual perspectives of ascent towards charity in the City of God and the descent into violence in the City of Man reflect contrasting worldviews. The City of God emphasizes relational peace and societal uplift, rooted in grace and hierarchical realignment. In contrast, the City of Man thrives on coercive law and the omnipotence of the state, denying the transformative power of grace and real relationships.