Toni Jordan grew up working in a T.A.B. with her cyclonic mother, and going to the greyhound races. Then she grew up to become a best-selling novelist. (R)

Toni Jordan is a best-selling novelist.

But she didn't grow up in a house full of books.

Her mum ran a T.A.B. and her dad trained greyhounds for a living.

Toni's mum was hardworking and hilarious, but she could also be hard to live with. 

All her life, Toni felt she had to look out for her mum.

But after Marg became a grandmother, Toni began to admire her in new ways.

This conversation talks about gambling, money, family dynamics, origin stories, parenting, mental health, writing, film, domestic violence and relationships.

Content warning: this episode of Conversations contains discussion about domestic violence and self harm.