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Scaling Laws: Export Controls: Janet Egan, Sam Winter-Levy, and Peter Harrell on the White House's Semiconductor Decision

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Aug 21, 2025
Join Peter Harrell, a former senior official at the White House, Janet Egan, an expert on technology and national security, and Sam Winter-Levy from Carnegie in a riveting discussion about the recent decision permitting Nvidia and AMD to export advanced AI semiconductors to China. They delve into the strategic risks of this deal, the implications for U.S.-China relations, and the challenging legal landscape surrounding export controls, raising concerns about national security and the future of global technological competition.
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Export Controls Target Compute Bottlenecks

  • The U.S. export controls targeted semiconductor manufacturing equipment and advanced AI chips as a national security measure.
  • The H100 was banned but NVIDIA produced a downgraded H20 that remained legal and useful for inference tasks.
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The Needle: Hurt Progress Without Spurring Indigenization

  • The export-control strategy tried to balance harming China’s AI progress while avoiding incentives for indigenization.
  • Evidence suggests China remained compute-constrained and the controls materially slowed its frontier AI work.
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Policy Flip On The H20 Chip

  • The Trump administration initially tightened rules on H20 exports but then reversed to allow sales under new terms.
  • That reversal set the stage for the reported 15% revenue arrangement with NVIDIA and AMD.
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