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Cloud Native Application Protection Platforms (CNAPPs) • Russ Miles & James Lewis

Jul 11, 2025
Russ Miles, Engineering Manager and Chaos Engineering Practitioner, teams up with James Lewis, Software Architect at Thoughtworks, to dive into Cloud Native Application Protection Platforms (CNAPPs). They explore the importance of teamwork between security and development, emphasizing decision-making through OODA loops. Russ highlights the future of platform engineering as a strategic commercial entity, predicting AI’s role in augmenting decision-making and fostering creativity in tech development. They also discuss the value of user-centric design and essential guardrails in platform evolution.
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ANECDOTE

Security Surprise From External Agency

  • Russ Miles shares a story about a security expert receiving unexpected instructions from an external agency.
  • The agency told them not to stop certain activity on their systems, which they were unaware was happening.
INSIGHT

CNAPPs Enable Collaborative OODA Loops

  • CNAPPs enable collaboration among developers, DevOps, and security teams by connecting diverse roles.
  • They accelerate decision-making with OODA loops, helping teams see the right information to act quickly and safely.
INSIGHT

Collaborative Security Like Command Centers

  • Russ Miles compares collaborative security work to command centers in defense and intelligence.
  • Fast and collective OODA loops are vital for strategic decisions in cloud-native security similar to military operations.
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