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The dangers of our rapidly narrowing understanding of China

Oct 18, 2024
Randal Phillips, a former chief CIA representative in China with nearly three decades of intelligence experience, discusses the alarming shift in China’s open engagement to a more insular stance. He highlights the implications of restricted information flow on American understanding of China. Phillips talks about the complexities of U.S.-China relations, particularly regarding fentanyl crises and transnational crime. He warns of growing challenges in business and intelligence operations and examines China’s expanding influence in global finance amid geopolitical tensions.
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Quick takeaways

  • The narrowing understanding of China's internal affairs by foreign observers highlights the challenges of gathering credible intelligence amid increasing government information control.
  • The intertwining of Chinese money laundering and drug trafficking networks underscores the complexity and urgency of addressing issues like the fentanyl crisis in the U.S.

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The Evolving Landscape of Espionage in China

China's information landscape has dramatically constricted under President Xi Jinping, making it increasingly difficult for external observers to gather intelligence. The government has locked down data pertaining to its economy, society, and governance, which has frustrated efforts by private due diligence firms seeking to understand the reality on the ground. This shift is perceived as part of a broader strategy to maintain control over information and limit foreign influence, thereby hindering transparency. The implications of this narrowing space for information extend beyond espionage, affecting global understanding of China's strategic intentions and economic health.

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