

A. Natasha Joukovsky: Status and Mythology
Oct 26, 2024
A. Natasha Joukovsky, a novelist and essayist known for her exploration of status and attraction, dives deep into the nuances of elitism and creativity. She discusses the intricate dynamics of characters in literature, like those in 'Anna Karenina,' and how social standings shape their identities. Joukovsky critiques the insecurity that often accompanies privilege and explores the interplay between art and self-love. The conversation also emphasizes the joy of creating for its own sake, advocating for the beauty of 'uselessness' in art.
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Intro
00:00 • 4min
Navigating Art and Authority
04:10 • 17min
Exploring Character Dynamics and Privilege in Literature
21:04 • 2min
The Insecurity of Privilege
22:48 • 23min
Echoes of Myth: Icarus and Phaeton
45:31 • 4min
Authenticity in Characters and Media
49:01 • 12min
Art, Status, and Self-Love
01:00:52 • 14min
Embracing Uselessness and the Joy of Art
01:15:15 • 3min
Status Anx
Status Anx
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Elaine De Beauvoir
Skylab
Skylab
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Julie Delpy

The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Milan Kundera
Set in Czechoslovakia during the 1968 Prague Spring and its aftermath, 'The Unbearable Lightness of Being' follows the lives of Tomáš, a surgeon and serial adulterer; Tereza, his wife; Sabina, Tomáš's mistress and an artist; and Franz, Sabina's lover.
The novel delves into philosophical themes such as the concept of 'lightness' versus 'heaviness', drawing from the ideas of Nietzsche and Parmenides.
It explores the characters' experiences with love, sex, loyalty, and betrayal, all set against the political turmoil of the time.
The story examines the human condition, the search for meaning and happiness, and the consequences of the choices made by the characters.

Infinite jest
wit and humor in Italian Renaissance art
Paul Barolsky
In this book, Paul Barolsky examines the role of wit and humor in Italian Renaissance art, providing insights into the artistic and cultural context of the period.
The work delves into how artists of the Renaissance used humor and wit in their creations, reflecting the broader cultural and social attitudes of the time.

Age of Innocence
Edith Wharton
Edith Wharton's "The Age of Innocence" is a novel set in New York City during the Gilded Age. It tells the story of Newland Archer, a lawyer entangled in a complex love triangle.
The novel explores themes of social constraints, morality, and the clash between tradition and personal desires.
Wharton masterfully portrays the rigid social structures of the time and the stifling expectations placed upon women.
The novel's intricate plot and insightful character development make it a classic of American literature.

The Elephant in the Brain
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Kevin Simler and Robin Hanson

Deceit, desire, and the novel
René Girard

Wanting
The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life
Luke Burgis
In 'Wanting: The Power of Mimetic Desire in Everyday Life,' Luke Burgis delves into the concept of mimetic desire, which is the tendency to imitate the desires of others.
Drawing on the work of René Girard, Burgis explains how our desires are mediated by models and how this can lead to rivalry, conflict, and unfulfilling pursuits.
The book distinguishes between 'thin' desires, which are superficial and mimetic, and 'thick' desires, which are deeper and more lasting.
Burgis provides tactics for identifying and transforming these desires, such as creating a hierarchy of values, finding sources of wisdom that withstand mimesis, and practicing empathy.
The book aims to help readers gain control over their desires and find more meaning in their lives by making intentional choices rather than blindly following mimetic forces.

American Psycho
Bret Easton Ellis
American Psycho is a black comedy horror novel that critiques the superficiality and materialism of 1980s Wall Street culture through the character of Patrick Bateman, a charismatic but sociopathic investment banker.
The novel explores themes of identity, consumerism, and the blurring of reality and fantasy.
It is known for its graphic violence and dark humor, offering a commentary on the excesses of capitalist society.

Anna Karenina
Leo Tolstoy
Published in 1878, 'Anna Karenina' is a novel by Leo Tolstoy that delves into the complexities of Russian society in the late 19th century.
The story centers around the extramarital affair between Anna Karenina, a married socialite, and Count Alexei Kirillovich Vronsky, which scandalizes the social circles of Saint Petersburg.
The novel also follows the parallel story of Konstantin Levin, a wealthy landowner, and his struggles with marriage, faith, and managing his estate.
Tolstoy explores a wide range of themes including love, loyalty, betrayal, hypocrisy, and the differences between rural and urban life.
The novel is known for its detailed character development and its profound commentary on the human condition.

The waste land
T. S. Eliot
The Waste Land is a 434-line poem divided into five sections: 'The Burial of the Dead', 'A Game of Chess', 'The Fire Sermon', 'Death by Water', and 'What the Thunder Said'.
It is a complex and erudite work that incorporates numerous allusions to mythology, classical literature, and religious texts.
The poem reflects the spiritual disillusionment and moral decay of the Western world after World War I, portraying a sterile and fragmented society.
It was initially met with controversy due to its innovative and often obscure style but has since become a central work in the modernist canon.

Fleishman is in Trouble
Taffy Brodesser-Akner
The novel follows Toby Fleishman, a 41-year-old hepatologist, and his wife Rachel, a successful talent agent, as they navigate their divorce.
The story is narrated by Toby's college friend Libby, who serves as a stand-in for the author.
The book examines the reversal of traditional gender roles, with Rachel as the primary breadwinner and Toby as the secondary earner.
It also critiques the affluent Manhattan professional class and explores the challenges of modern marriage, parenting, and the impact of dating apps on relationships.
The narrative delves into the complexities of their 14-year marriage and the events that led to its breakdown, while also reflecting on Libby's own life and experiences.
Changing Places
Changing Places
David Lodge

Either/or
A Fragment of Life
Søren Kierkegaard
In 'Either/Or', Kierkegaard juxtaposes the aesthetic and ethical modes of life through the writings of two imaginary characters, 'A' and 'B'.
Part 1, written by 'A', presents the aesthetic man, with essays on topics such as Mozart’s 'Don Giovanni', ancient tragedy, and the famous 'Seducer’s Diary'.
Part 2, written by 'B', a middle-aged judge, advocates for an ethical life, emphasizing the importance of commitments like marriage and the development of the inner self.
The book is a rich and suggestive exploration of existential choices, though it lacks a clear message, leaving interpretations open to the reader.
It also includes a final sermon that highlights the limitations of both worldviews and points towards a religious perspective.
All Things Are Too Small
All Things Are Too Small
Becca Rothfeld

Metamorphoses
Frank Justus Miller
Robert Squillace
Ovid

The Mating Mind
How Sexual Choice Shaped the Evolution of Human Nature
Geoffrey Miller
In 'The Mating Mind,' Geoffrey Miller proposes that the human mind evolved not just as a survival machine but as a courtship machine.
He argues that many of the distinctive human traits, such as language, art, music, and morality, were developed as fitness indicators and sexual attractors.
Miller draws on Darwin's theory of sexual selection and integrates ideas from psychology, economics, history, and pop culture to explain how these traits were shaped by the sexual choices of our ancestors.
The book suggests that once language evolved, thought itself became subject to sexual selection, and that human courtship is a primary driving force behind human evolution.

Pride and Prejudice
Jane Austen
Published in 1813, 'Pride and Prejudice' is a novel that revolves around the lives of the Bennet family, particularly the second eldest daughter, Elizabeth.
The story is set in the early 19th century and explores themes of love, societal expectations, and personal growth.
The novel centers on Elizabeth's tumultuous relationship with the wealthy and proud Mr. Darcy, whose initial arrogance and reserve gradually give way to a deeper understanding and mutual respect.
Through their interactions, both characters learn to overcome their prejudices and flaws, leading to a transformative journey of self-discovery and redemption.
The novel also delves into the societal pressures on women to secure marriages, the importance of family, and the nuances of social hierarchy during the British Regency period.

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Sir Michael Howard

Ulysses
James Joyce
Ulysses is a groundbreaking and complex modernist novel that chronicles the experiences of three Dubliners over a single day.
The novel is loosely based on Homer's epic poem 'The Odyssey', with Leopold Bloom paralleling Odysseus, Stephen Dedalus paralleling Telemachus, and Molly Bloom paralleling Penelope.
It explores themes such as antisemitism, human sexuality, British rule in Ireland, Catholicism, and Irish nationalism.
The novel is known for its innovative use of language and narrative techniques, including stream-of-consciousness and multiple literary styles.
It captures the essence of early 20th-century Dublin, providing a detailed snapshot of the city's social, political, and cultural landscape.
Novelist and essayist A. Natasha Joukovksy joined me to talk about status and attraction, mimesis and uniformity, Girard and Austen, Batuman and Kierkegaard, Tolstoy and main character energy, Natasha's first novel and her new one in the making, the positive side of the imitation game, and how individuals can live freely from it all.