The Fifth Column Members Only #276 - The Cancelling of an American Talkshow (w/ Greg Lukianoff)
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Sep 19, 2025 
Greg Lukianoff, president of FIRE and a staunch advocate for free speech, dives into the latest crises surrounding expression, including the fallout from the Jimmy Kimmel firing. He sheds light on the subtle differences between coercion and principles of free speech, bringing attention to the concerning trends among youth regarding political violence. With sharp insights on the impact of political pressures, Lukianoff provides a thought-provoking discussion on why protecting free speech is more crucial than ever.
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Lighthearted Opening Banter
- The episode opens with a humorous exchange about a guest discovering Billy Joel is Jewish, showing casual banter sets tone.
- Hosts use levity before shifting to heavier free speech topics.
Travel Interrupted By A Crisis
- Greg Lukianoff describes running a multi-city speech tour and landing to news of Charlie Kirk being shot, which disrupted his schedule and sleep.
- That event intensified FIRE's workload and prompted rapid commentary on free speech threats.
Government Pressure, Not Just Private Action
- Lukianoff argues the Jimmy Kimmel firing shows clear government pressure on broadcasters rather than purely private action.
- He views the administration's actions as systematic attempts to use regulatory leverage to silence critics.