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For Heaven's Sake
Israel at War – The Next Phase
Jan 17, 2024
The hosts discuss the shifting reality and unfulfilled goals of the war in Gaza. They explore Israel's evolving strategies, concerns about shifting goalposts, and the implications for military deterrence. They also reflect on the messianic spirit of Zionism, the need for non-messianic approaches, and the constant threat of war. Lastly, they emphasize the importance of a clear goal, patience, leadership, and societal support in the ongoing war against the Iranian regime.
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- The goals of the war in Gaza have shifted from eliminating Hamas to degrading their military capacity, raising concerns about Israel's deterrence and fading consensus among Israeli society.
- The transition to stage three of the war highlights the need for Israelis to embrace the reality of unredeemed Zionism, reaffirming the importance of clear leadership and ongoing commitment in the face of danger.
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Shifting Reality of the War in Gaza
The intensity of the war in Gaza has shifted, but public discourse hasn't reflected this change. Israel has reduced its troops in Gaza and shifted focus to the north. While the goals set at the beginning of the war have not been fulfilled, Hamas still poses a threat to Israeli life. Now, Israel plans to initiate a more precise special forces operation in Gaza, but doubts remain about the effectiveness of these efforts. The discussion highlights the need to reassess and make sense of this next phase of the war.
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