The SSI Orbit Podcast – Self-Sovereign Identity, Decentralization and Digital Trust

#57 - eIDAS 2.0 & the EU Digital Identity Wallet [Part 2] (with Dr. André Kudra)

Jul 28, 2023

Dr. André Kudra, CIO of esatus AG, discusses the success of eIDAS 1.0 and the purpose of eIDAS 2.0. He explores the future of existing EU-based digital ID systems and the interoperability goals of eIDAS 2.0. The podcast also discusses the choice of formats and protocols for mobile driving licenses and decentralized identity. Dr. Kudra highlights the role of regulatory bodies and the Open Wallet Foundation in creating the European Identity Wallet. The integration of payment functionalities into identity wallets and misconceptions surrounding blockchain in digital identity are also explored. The podcast concludes by discussing the large-scale pilots and the potential of decentralized identity.

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Introduction

00:00 • 5min

The Future of Digital Identity and EIDAS 2.0

05:02 • 24min

Choosing Formats and Protocols for Mobile Driving Licenses and Decentralized Identity

28:43 • 5min

The Role of Regulatory Bodies and the Open Wallet Foundation in Creating the European Identity Wallet

34:01 • 4min

Exploring the Integration of Payment Functionalities into Identity Wallets

38:24 • 2min

Misconceptions and Implementations of Blockchain in Digital Identity

40:34 • 13min

Exploring Large-Scale Pilots and the EU Digital Identity Wallet

53:19 • 15min

Dr. André Kudra is the CIO of esatus AG, a consultancy and technology company specialized in InfoSec and with a strong footprint in Self-Sovereign Identity (SSI). André is a tenacious advocate of decentralization, complexity reduction and Self-Sovereign Identity. He has been in information security since the start of the millennium. He is tech-savvy despite business degrees, and an author, collaborator, multiplier. Dr. André Kudra is a board member of TeleTrusT (IT Security Association Germany) for which he chairs the “Blockchain” and “Secure Platform” working groups. Global outreach includes being a Trustee of the Sovrin Foundation, a Steering Committee member of the Trust over IP (ToIP) Foundation and co-founder of the MyData Literacy Thematic Group.

About Podcast Episode

Read more about the episode by heading to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://northernblock.io/podcasts/eidas2-and-eu-digital-identity-wallet-part-2⁠

The full list of topics discussed between André and I in this podcast include:

Success of eIDAS 1.0 and the Purpose of eIDAS 2.0 - whether eIDAS 1.0 was successful in enabling digital ID systems and what eIDAS 2.0 aims to correct.
eIDAS 2.0 and Interoperability - does eIDAS 2.0 aims to improve interoperability and technology adoption, and is the EU digital ID wallet architecture reference framework (ARF) an extension of this effort?
Future of Existing EU-based Digital ID Systems - what will happen to existing digital ID systems like those in Italy and Estonia, and whether they will transition to support eIDAS 2.0 or need to build a second system.
Importance of Identity Proofing Uniformity - the importance of uniformity in identity proofing processes across nation states and whether this has been a contentious topic under previous eIDAS legislation.
Prescriptive Governance and Technology Recommendations - if it's better for the ecosystem to have more prescriptive governance and whether the technology recommendations are too prescriptive or not enough.
Key Decisions in the ARF Document - the key decisions made in the RF document and what was left unclear.
Negative Sentiment Around Blockchains or DLTs - why there might be a negative sentiment around blockchains or DLTs in the digital identity space.
Separation of Aries from the Hyperledger Foundation - would it make sense for Aries to be separated from the Hyperledger Foundation given its potential as an open agent.
EU’s Four Large-Scale Pilots - updates on the different large-scale pilots and their impact on technical and governance specifications.
Learnings from Large-Scale Pilots - learnings from the large-scale pilots, particularly from non-government bodies, and whether there's a shift in mentality among these entities around digital credentials.

Where to find André?

LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/kudra/⁠
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KudrixD⁠⁠

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