

Special Episode: Striking for the Future of Mental Healthcare
Special Episode: Curt and Katie talk about the recent NUHW- Kaiser Permanente Mental Health Worker Strike. Katie interviews a National Union of Healthcare Workers representative, Dr. Kenneth Rogers. We then both reflect on the interview and a statement from Kaiser Permanente, especially related to the implications for the profession as a whole.
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In this episode we talk about:
- The implications of the strike for all mental healthcare workers
- A statement from Kaiser Permanente
- An interview with Dr. Kenneth Rogers, shop steward and member of the bargaining team for NUHW
- The focus of the strike – looking at what the Union is requesting
- What a shop steward is, how the union works, what the bargaining table looks like
- The bureaucracy and distance that impacts the bargaining
- The different perspectives of each side
- The complexity of the decision making, the strategy of Kaiser Permanente
- The possibilities that Katie sees related to state-of-the-art mental health services
- The goal of transforming the model of care
- The inefficiencies that lead to lower productivity, the focus needed to improve care
- The positives in the current Kaiser proposal
- The hope of coming together to work on the future of mental healthcare
- The lack of parity in how mental healthcare workers are treated versus other professionals in Kaiser, looking at the perceived payment philosophy
- NUHW goal for the mental health system of care – solely getting to the basic standard of care
- The lack of trust between Kaiser and NUHW and the complexity of the decision-making
- Rogers’ reflections on the survival guide tips and the impact of the strike on clinicians and patients, advice for the striking clinicians
- The impact of Kaiser’s payment philosophy on other workplaces (Curt busting out some economic theory from Richard Thayler)
- The importance of the union work on wages in other workplaces
- Parity for mental health professionals and what that means for mental health parity
- Call to action to stay informed, step up and advocacy
Resources mentioned:
We’ve pulled together resources mentioned in this episode and put together some handy-dandy links.
National Union of Healthcare Workers: NUHW
Union Representative Dr. Kenneth Rogers bio:
Kenneth Rogers, Psy.D. is a psychologist who has worked with the Kaiser Permanente Medical Group for the past 16 years. He has worked at the Fremont, Santa Clara, and Campbell Medical Centers in the past and currently works at the Elk Grove clinic near South Sacramento. He has been a shop steward for NUHW since its inception in 2009 and has been on the NUHW Executive Board since 2015. Dr. Rogers was a member of the 2010-2015 contract bargaining team and he remains a member of the current bargaining committee since July, 2018.
The Kaiser Permanente ACE Study
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