The Daily Stoic This Is Not What We Fight For
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Nov 5, 2025 Explore the proactive nature of Stoics, who were anything but passive thinkers. Dive into how even great minds like Seneca sometimes chased misguided ambitions. Ryan Holiday highlights the tragic side of relentless striving, emphasizing that determination can turn into a flaw. Discover the wisdom in knowing when to stop and what truly matters, steering clear of the insatiable desire for more. This lively discussion redefines what it means to fight for meaningful goals.
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Grocery Run Sets The Scene
- Ryan Holiday describes a mundane Monday grocery routine with his kids at Whole Foods.
- He mentions shopping for a Thanksgiving turkey and sets a domestic, everyday scene.
Stoic Resolve Can Be Double-Edged
- Stoics were fighters who did impressive, difficult things and achieved real impact.
- Yet their drive could become destructive when misdirected or unending.
Seneca And Cicero Stayed Too Long
- Seneca criticized relentless politicians but then stayed too long serving Nero.
- Cicero similarly pursued relevance and power instead of stepping away for true service.