In this episode of the Hope + Help Podcast, host Christine Chappell interviews Scott Mehl about his new book, "Loving Messy People: The Messy Art of Helping One Another Become More Like Jesus." During the conversation, Scott shares why interpersonal ministry in the local church isn't restricted to paid professionals and trained experts. He helps listeners to better understand God's good design for one-another care and offers some reasons why Christians often balk at the call to enter into the messy lives of other people. Scott outlines a basic structure of gospel care, explaining why it's necessary for helpers, strugglers, and sufferers to have God-oriented goals when thinking about how to navigate their problems. He also addresses practical ways pastors and church leaders can take first steps in preparing their church to become a community which cares for one-another well through the practice of intentional discipleship relationships. View the full show notes & links for this episode: https://ibcd.org/loving-messy-people-scott-mehl/ The Hope + Help Podcast offers biblical conversations about life's challenging problems. The podcast accomplishes this by offering a mix of interviews with seasoned biblical counseling professionals and ministry leaders on a variety of topics. Listeners can expect to receive biblical wisdom as well as practical steps for facing suffering, struggling, and sin with courage and grace. Hosted by author/writer Christine M. Chappell. To learn more about the show and to access helpful resources, visit https://ibcd.org/hopeandhelp. Connect with host Christine Chappell and subscribe to her weekly Christ-centered biblical counseling resources at http://christinemchappell.com. IBCD's Hope + Help Podcast is available on most podcast streaming platforms, so please don't keep the show a secret! If you know someone walking through a challenging season of life, please share the Hope + Help Podcast with them.