Classic Episode: July 7, 2013 — Richard Toronto & Geneva Hagen on Palmer/Shaver

Gene and Chris present Richard Toronto, author of "War over Lemuria: Richard Shaver, Ray Palmer and the Strangest Chapter of 1940s Science Fiction." Toronto, a former newspaper reporter, is a long time student of the Shaver Mystery. We'll also be joined by Geneva Hagen, co-editor of the UFO/occult/counter culture magazine, "Caveat Emptor," and a friend of Shaver's. Both Palmer and Shaver were pioneers not just in science fiction, but helped in encouraging interest in flying saucers in the late 1940s and early 1950s. Indeed, Palmer is sometimes identified as "The Man Who Invented Flying Saucers."


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