Want to become more Stoic? Join us and other Stoics this October: Stoicism Applied by Caleb Ontiveros and Michael Tremblay on Maven

"They say that love is an effort to form a friendship because of an impression of beauty in young persons at their prime..."

In this conversation, Caleb and Michael talk about the Stoics on eros and romantic love. First, they cover how the Stoics saw the nature of romantic love. Then, they look at what advice they have for us today. Finally, they end on the topic of heartbreak.

(01:35) Introducing Love

(05:36) Erotic Love

(20:18) Friendship

(27:00) Stoic Advice for Modern Relationships

(30:39) Knowing How To Say The I

(36:59) Role Ethics  

(41:24) The Stoics on Heartbreak

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