
Future Learning Design Podcast Going Back to First Principles to Replace "School" - A Conversation with Dr Kapono Ciotti
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Jul 19, 2025 In a thought-provoking conversation, Dr. Kapono Ciotti, the CEO of the Pacific American Foundation in Hawai'i, discusses the urgent need to rethink educational institutions through a cultural lens. He emphasizes returning to indigenous roots to inform innovative solutions. Topics include the redefinition of learning landscapes and the drawbacks of standardized math education. Kapono advocates for personalized learning that prioritizes individual exploration, urging a transformation in educational infrastructure to nurture deep human connections.
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We Are All Indigenous Somewhere
- Everyone is indigenous somewhere and needs to find their cultural place.
- Colonialism disrupted roots, but rediscovering culture is essential for education and identity.
Different Cognitive Roles of Metaphors
- Metaphors, templates, and frameworks serve distinct cognitive roles in learning design.
- Metaphors demand more intellectual effort but enrich understanding beyond rigid templates.
Learning as Navigating a Landscape
- Learning resembles navigating a landscape, not a racetrack, accommodating diverse individual paths.
- This model addresses varied learner needs, avoiding harmful standardization to an average pace.




