This week on Art of the Brand, Camille and Phillip unpack one of the most dynamic episodes yet. From Victoria’s Secret’s unapologetic return to form to The Ordinary’s “anti-industry” campaign (that’s actually owned by Estée Lauder), they explore the tension between authenticity and performance in modern branding. They also debate Tiffany’s $1,500 paperclip, the rise of “anti-brand” beauty culture, why Amex is the world’s best branding lesson, and how founders can stop obsessing over followers and start building brands that actually grow.Expect strong opinions, data-backed strategy, and a reminder that average isn’t aspirational.


