Honestly with Bari Weiss

Can America Win the AI War with China?

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Feb 6, 2025
Tyler Cowen, an economics professor and AI expert, joins Geoffrey Cain, a specialist on China and author of "The Perfect Police State," to unravel the recent AI rivalry sparked by China's DeepSeek. They discuss how this unexpected competitor emerged, challenging U.S. dominance despite restrictions on technology export. The conversation highlights potential national security threats, the complexities of trade, and the implications of AI on higher education. They argue for more dialogue amidst rising tensions as America navigates the shifting landscape of AI innovation.
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INSIGHT

DeepSeek's Impact

  • DeepSeek is a fast, fun, and open-source AI model from China.
  • It's not as good as OpenAI's products, but its accessibility makes it impactful.
ANECDOTE

Early DeepSeek Experience

  • Tyler Cowen used DeepSeek before it became major news due to his involvement in AI chat groups.
  • He found it charming, poetic, and better at fiction than American models, but restricted regarding Chinese politics.
INSIGHT

China's Playbook

  • DeepSeek leverages existing US technologies and refines them incrementally for better execution, cost, and ease of use.
  • This allows them to compete by catching up and overtaking US advancements.
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