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In this episode, Dr. Andrew White joins us to talk about the real-world consequences of shows like Ancient Apocalypse and how pseudo-archaeology is often used to accomplish nationalist and frequently racist objectives. So join us as we take a bizarre journey through a world of neo-nazi Graham Hancock fanboys, Atlantis-pushing occultists, and anti-Indigenous propaganda, and discuss the need for archaeologists to confront this bullshit head-on!

About our guest:

Andrew White is anthropological archaeologist (PhD 2012, University of Michigan) with interests in hunter-gatherers, lithic technology, human evolution, and complex systems theory.  He is particularly interested in combining archaeological methods and theory with ethnographic data and computational modeling to develop new ways to push the boundaries of our understanding of the social, cultural, and evolutionary aspects of the human past. He has spent some time confronting pseudo-archaeological claims about the human past and feels that other professional archaeologists should do the same.

https://www.youtube.com/@andrewwhite33

Your Host:

Kurly Tlapoyawa is an  archaeologist, ethnohistorian, and filmmaker. His research covers Mesoamerica, the American Southwest, and the historical connections  between the two regions. He is the author of numerous books and has  presented lectures at the University of New  Mexico, Harvard University,  Yale University, San Diego State University, and numerous others. He is also a cultural consultant for Nickelodeon Animation Studios. His recent projects include LiDAR-assisted survey in the Maya hinterlands of southern Belize, the documentary short film "Guardians of the Purple Kingdom," and "The Casagrandes Movie" on Netflix. @kurlytlapoyawa

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