No Bullsh*t Leadership with Chris Hirst

In this episode co-hosts Jean and Scott talk to Chris Hirst, who runs one of the world’s largest creative networks and is the author of No Bullsh*t Leadership (winner of Business Book of the Year Award 2020: Leadership for the future). In the book, Chris seeks to overturn what he calls the leadership industrial complex that over complicates what leadership is and prevents the core role and practices of what leaders really need to do from being explicit.  

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After more than 5 years of hosting The Evolving Leader, Jean Gomes and Scott Allender are launching their new show The Mindset Economy in January 2026. The new show will explore how to live better, work smarter and be connected in a more uncertain world where machines can think. 

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