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From 'The Conversation': Oregon AG to Trump: There’s no rebellion here | Dan Rayfield

Oct 12, 2025
Dan Rayfield, Oregon's Attorney General and former House Speaker, tackles legal battles against the Trump administration concerning the National Guard's proposed deployment to Portland. He emphasizes the importance of facts in federal actions and discusses the implications of federal overreach on local governance. Meanwhile, Vani Hari, aka 'Food Babe', shares her journey from food blogging to activism, connecting her work with health policies and RFK Jr. She advocates for tougher regulations on harmful chemicals, urging a bipartisan approach to food safety.
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ANECDOTE

Prepping For Potential Overreach

  • Rayfield says Democratic attorneys general prepared legally for presidential overreach before Trump took office.
  • He recounts prior research on the Insurrection Act as part of that preparation.
INSIGHT

Guard Use Threatens Constitutional Limits

  • Dan Rayfield warns that normalizing military deployments in U.S. cities threatens constitutional limits on presidential power.
  • He argues presidents must show concrete facts before federalizing the Guard to prevent future abuses.
ADVICE

Demand Facts Before Troop Deployment

  • Require the federal government to present factual evidence in court before deploying troops domestically.
  • Challenge deployments legally when statutory conditions like invasion or rebellion are not met.
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