In this episode of The Size Up, Pip and Kevin Mahoney discuss a range of topics related to emergency services, including personal interests, parenting, the challenges faced in EMS and fire services, the importance of mentorship, and the need for mental health support. They also touch on innovations in EMS training, recruitment and retention issues, and the significance of networking and collaboration within the field. The conversation highlights the importance of health and wellness for emergency service providers and provides insights into the upcoming Vital Signs Conference in New York. Because, what you do off the job, MATTERS!!!