Emil Ejner Friis is a theory artist, wordsmith, and author. He has spent the last ten years trying to figure out how to create a listening society, a kinder and more developed society that deeply cares for the happiness and emotional needs of every citizen. He is also one half of the Hanzi Freinacht duo, an alias under which he has released “The Listening Society” and “Nordic Ideology” -  two groundbreaking books that unpack the metamodern philosophy. In this episode, we speak about what really matters in life, negative social emotions, making metamodernism pragmatic, and integrating intellect with art and music.