IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson Live On Your Edge with Dr. Orna Guralnik
Oct 1, 2025
Dr. Orna Guralnik, a renowned clinical psychologist and the mind behind Showtime’s Couples Therapy, dives into the complexities of marital boredom and disconnection. She explores how inner disconnection often triggers feelings of boredom and offers practical steps to rekindle romance. The conversation highlights the importance of creating meaningful shared moments and embracing vulnerability to deepen intimacy. Listeners also learn about the benefits of therapy and the necessity of broadening support networks beyond one's partner.
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Hiding Marital Struggles From Family
- Craig hid problems in his first marriage and avoided talking about it with family.
- He avoided discussing struggles because admitting them would force him to confront and disclose them publicly.
A Single Parental Fight That Lasted
- Craig and Michelle recall one memorable argument from their parents where the family blocked their father from leaving.
- That single visible fight shaped their perception that parents rarely modeled marital conflict openly.
Why Couples Work Reveals Hidden Perspectives
- Couples therapy reveals both perspectives that individual therapy misses.
- Orna sought training specifically to learn the art of couples work and found it powerful.