Pat Quinn didn't get his start as a professional speaker. Instead, he worked as a professional magician for 10 years before deciding to get a "real" job. He became a public school teacher and taught high school for 12 years, during which time he got a degree in brain research, focusing on how adults learn. This combination of experiences means he brings both stagecraft and a deep understanding of audiences to his presentations. Tune in to hear his wisdom and learn how to apply it to your own talks and presentations!

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In This Episode:

[01:11] - Pat starts things off by talking about how to be a better speaker, and some of the biggest screw-ups he's seen.
[03:59] - We hear about how you can know when you're on the right track.
[06:13] - It's a lot harder to sell someone a solution if you first have to convince them that there's a problem, Pat points out.
[11:03] - Stephan explores a connection between what Pat has been saying and something he learned from Neil Strauss.
[12:55] - Pat digs into the importance of storytelling when you're speaking, and gives specific examples of how this can work.
[18:09] - We hear about two types of speakers who nobody wants to listen to or engage with.
[20:18] - How do you give concrete steps that will help the audience make an improvement without giving away the farm?
[26:47] - Stephan shares something that he learned early in his career. Pat then points out the importance of getting your audience to remember what you talked to them about.
[32:09] - Most of the changes that Pat makes with the speakers he works with is shortening, not lengthening, their presentations. He then recommends having a mixture of short-term and long-term solutions.
[36:43] - The key to getting people to engage with you even though you gave them your best stuff is to include long-term solutions that people need to engage in.
[39:36] - Pat digs deeper into the role of storytelling in presentations, and explores one of the stories that a lot of people make.
[43:45] - What Pat has been saying reminds Stephan of Matt Church's "pink sheets."
[45:46] - What does Pat tell people who take the approach of awkwardly splitting a presentation into a teaching section and selling section?
[52:23] - The process Pat has been describing is called "seeding" or "embedding," he explains.
[58:33] - Pat talks about whether he has a go-to strategy for the next step, such as inviting people to a call. He then shares a specific example of a story that everyone can relate to and teaches the point he wants to make.
[67:38] - How can people reach out with Pat to work with him or learn more?

Links and Resources:

Jeremy Affeldt // The Buffalo Mentality