

Trueface
Robby Angle
If you find yourself having trouble with applying grace into your everyday life, then the Trueface Podcast is for you. Our hope is to provide practical and helpful applications of grace and truth so that we can live beyond the mask. Every other week, guests share a story, discuss a principal, and apply it to our lives.
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Oct 4, 2026 • 23min
Understanding Shame: Why We Hide, Pretend, and Strive | John Lynch
Could shame be shaping the way we see ourselves, God, and even our relationships without us realizing it? We go back to the garden in Genesis to explore the origins of shame, the difference between guilt and shame, and the patterns of hiding, pretending, blaming, and striving that can follow us for years. John Lynch helps us see how the shame story can become deeply rooted in our identity—even after we become believers—and why simply knowing biblical truth in our heads doesn't always mean we experience its freedom. We unpack what the cross accomplished for our shame, what it means to be a new creation in Christ, and how we can return to these truths when shame resurfaces. Ultimately, we are reminded that our shame does not define us, there is no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, and we can rest in the reality of Christ in us.What We LearnedShame entered the human story when Adam and Eve moved from innocence to hiding after their sin in the garden.Guilt says, “I've done something wrong,” while shame tells us that something is fundamentally wrong with who we are.Fig leaves, masks, striving, and proving ourselves can become ways of managing shame rather than addressing what is underneath it.Shame can cause us to fear what God will do with us and whether we can actually be restored.The cross addresses more than our sin—it addresses our shame and means we are no longer defined by our old shame story.Galatians 2:20 points us toward a new identity: Christ lives in us rather than our old identity defining us.Feeling shame again does not mean we have failed to believe the truth; there can be a lag between understanding these truths and experiencing them.When shame resurfaces, we can return to the same truth: we are new creatures, there is no condemnation in Christ, and God is delighted with us.Scripture MentionedGenesis 3Hebrews 12:2Galatians 2:202 Corinthians 5:21Romans 8:1Produced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show

Sep 20, 2026 • 51min
Living With God Instead of For God | Carolyn Taketa
Carolyn Taketa, a leadership coach with 30 years in law, ministry, and organizational leadership, explores the difference between living for God and living with Him. She discusses perfectionism, motherhood, grace, spiritual formation, life transitions, and why becoming matters more than achievement. The conversation also examines how community reveals growth and how the fruit of the Spirit guides transformation.

Sep 6, 2026 • 25min
Forgiveness, Trust, and the Freedom to Let Go | Bruce McNicol
What happens when we choose forgiveness before we know how the story will turn out? We explore the surprising connection between forgiveness, trust, grace, and the freedom that comes when we stop trying to control an outcome. Bruce McNicol, Trueface founder and president emeritus, shares a formative story from his childhood about watching his father respond to a serious breach of trust in business—not with retaliation, but with forgiveness. We unpack why forgiveness isn't about ignoring justice, avoiding accountability, or guaranteeing a particular outcome. Instead, it can be an act of trusting God and receiving His grace to heal our relationships. Along the way, we consider the difference between external actions and our internal posture, why trust must be earned, and how choosing forgiveness can create peace and freedom in our own lives. We also hear how one man's decision to forgive ultimately influenced someone who was watching decades later.What We LearnedForgiveness can be an act of trusting God when a situation is outside our control.Trust is earned, and being a Christian does not automatically make someone trustworthy.Forgiveness and repentance aren't simply tools for behavior management; they can be gifts of grace that help heal relationships.We can pursue accountability, wise business practices, and justice while still choosing forgiveness internally.The peace and freedom that come through forgiveness can benefit the person doing the forgiving, regardless of how the other person responds.We don't always know who is watching how we respond to broken trust, and our choices can influence people years later.God can work through formative experiences long before we understand their purpose.Forgiveness ultimately invites us to trust God with outcomes we cannot control.Resources MentionedTruefaceTrueface High Trust Leader CourseThe CureEugene Peterson’s The MessageProduced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show

Aug 23, 2026 • 48min
Stop Self-Protecting: Discover Your True Identity | Jamie Winship
Jamie Winship, author and ministry leader who helps people find their true identity in Christ. He explores how fear drives a false, self-protective identity and contrasts it with an other-focused true self. He reframes confession as honest truth-telling and shares a daily practice of releasing burdens to God. He explains fear as a directional signal and the role of community in discerning God’s invitations.

Aug 9, 2026 • 43min
Can You Really Hear God's Voice? // Jamie Winship
What if hearing from God is more practical than we've been taught? We revisit one of our favorite conversations with Jamie Winship as he shares how discovering his God-given identity transformed the way he approached fear, relationships, and everyday life. We explore how learning to recognize God's voice shaped Jamie's work as a police officer, why identity is deeper than our vocation, and what it looks like to follow Jesus in ordinary moments. If you've ever wondered whether God still speaks today or how to live with greater confidence in your identity, this conversation offers a compelling invitation to trust Him in every part of life.What We LearnedIdentity comes from God—not from what we do, what we have, or what other people think about us.Fear is one of the greatest obstacles to living the life God designed us to live.God often meets us in ordinary moments and unexpected places, not just traditionally "spiritual" environments.Our vocation is not our identity; our identity is what brings life and purpose into our vocation.Learning to hear God's voice is a discipline that grows through asking questions, paying attention, and practicing obedience.Abiding with Jesus means inviting Him into everyday conversations, decisions, and relationships—not just spiritual activities.God frequently reveals Himself most clearly in places of darkness, desperation, and uncertainty.Obedience is hearing God's voice and responding, rather than simply following rules.Resources MentionedLiving Fearless — Jamie WinshipIdentity ExchangeBecoming What You BelieveTruefaceSerpico (1973)Athletes in ActionProduced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show

Jul 26, 2026 • 42min
Walking with Jesus Beyond Sunday // Tim Timmons
What does it look like to actually walk with Jesus in everyday life—not just during church on Sunday? We sat down with Tim Timmons to talk about his new song, "Wreckage and Rain," written for The PATH Album, and the deeper themes of shame, healing, grief, gratitude, and authenticity that inspired it. Together, we explored why following Jesus is more about joining Him in the ordinary moments than performing for others, how hidden wounds keep us stuck, and why taking off the mask can change the way we experience both God and our relationships. We also discussed Tim's upcoming appearance in I Can Only Imagine 2, his battle with stage four cancer, and why hope isn't found in circumstances but in the presence of God.What We LearnedFollowing Jesus is practiced during the "10,000 minutes" between church gatherings, not just the 80 minutes spent together on Sundays.Authenticity begins when we're willing to stop protecting our own kingdom and start seeking God's kingdom instead.Shame says our failures define us, while healthy correction reminds us we are deeply loved even when we make mistakes.Healing doesn't always come with time alone; God often meets us in the ongoing tension between grief and gratitude.Vulnerability creates space for others to be honest too—the gift of "going first" changes relationships.Biblical belief is more than agreeing with truth; it's living as though that truth is actually real.Hope is rooted in God's presence and His work of restoration, not in getting the outcome we want.Writing songs as prayers creates space for honest conversations with God that others can join.Resources MentionedThe PathThe Cure Tim Timmons Journey Church10,000 MinutesI Can Only Imagine 2Waking Up AgainJess CatesBenji CowartDan AllenderProduced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show

Jul 12, 2026 • 45min
What Happens When Songwriters Create Space for God? // Jason Pamer & Josh Silverberg
THE PATH MUSIC is more than an album—it's an invitation to experience the Father's love in a way that moves beyond information and into transformation. We sat down with Bruce McNicol (Trueface Co-founder & President Emeritus), Benjamin Crawshaw (Trueface Director of Member Engagement), Jason Pamer (film producer and writer, known for Rape for Profit (2012), Saved for a Reason (2016), and Anima (2026)), and Josh Silverberg (11-time Grammy, Dove Award, and Emmy nominee, songwriter, producer, and founder of Savage Sync House) to explore the heart behind this unique songwriting project inspired by The Path.Together, we discuss how a community of award-winning artists gathered in Nashville to write original songs based on each chapter of The Path, why music uniquely reaches places that words alone cannot, and how trust, identity, friendship, and the Father's delight became the foundation for every song. We also hear the story behind the collaboration, the creative process, and the hope that these songs will help listeners move from performance to trust as they experience the love of God.Bruce wanted to honor Jason, Josh and the entire songwriting/artist community with legendary producer Quincy Jones’ urging, “When making music you’ve got to leave space for God to walk through the room.” That’s exactly what this whole songwriting community did—they made space for God to walk through those writing rooms. What We LearnedMusic can communicate identity and the Father's love in ways that spoken or written words often cannot.Every song on The Path Music was written to embody one chapter and one core theme from The Path.The project brought together artists from diverse backgrounds and church traditions around a shared love for Jesus and His grace.The creative process prioritized relationships, prayer, excellence, and thoughtful collaboration over speed or production volume.The message of trusting God instead of living to please Him became a central theme throughout the conversation.God invites us into relationship before performance, and His delight isn't earned through our achievements.The hope for the album is that listeners experience healing, identity, and deeper trust in the Father's love.Resources MentionedThe PathThe Cure The Cure & ParentsThe Heart of Man After Death (2023)Bo's CafeQuote by Dr. Curt ThompsonActs 9:26-28Jason Pamer - IMDBJosh Silverberg - The Savage Sync HouseProduced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show

Jun 28, 2026 • 39min
THE PATH MUSIC: Loved on Your Worst Day // Mike Donehey
What if you already are who you wish you were? Benjamin Crawshaw and Brittany Coulson sit down with Mike Donehey to talk about The Path, the upcoming music project inspired by the book, and why so much of our spiritual growth comes back to identity. Together, they explore the freedom that comes from living from God's love instead of striving for it, why confession creates connection instead of shame, and how grace transforms the way we see ourselves, our work, and the people around us. Mike also shares how the songs for The Path album came together, why stewardship is a better framework than leadership, and what changes when we truly believe we are already loved.What We LearnedFailure isn't the opposite of growth—it can be an opportunity to learn, grow, and discover whether we are truly loved.The question "Is that all you got?" creates safety and freedom when people share their failures and struggles.Vulnerability becomes easier when we practice it with trusted people over time.Moving from "Why are you feeling that?" to "What do you think is underneath that?" creates curiosity instead of defensiveness.Identity is foundational: we work from God's approval, not for God's approval.Stewardship reminds us that our gifts are entrusted to us by God rather than earned by our own efforts.Our worth does not rise and fall with our usefulness, performance, or obedience.Sometimes all we have to bring to God is our need—and that is enough.Resources MentionedMike Donehey / Instagram: @MikeDoneheyTrueface: The Path & The CureTenth Avenue NorthAlbums: The Light Meets the Dark & The StruggleSong: Broken PeopleBook: Finding God's Life for My WillDallas Willard quoteProduced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show

Jun 14, 2026 • 39min
What Grace Changes Between Us // Benjamin Crawshaw & Brittany Coulson
Grace changes more than our relationship with God—it changes the way we relate to everyone around us.We sat down with Benjamin Crawshaw and Brittany Coulson to explore what grace actually looks like in everyday relationships. From receiving grace when we fail, to building deeper trust through vulnerability, to extending grace to the people who are hardest to love, we unpack how grace moves from a theological concept to a lived experience. We also talk about high-trust relationships, why being known is so risky, and how God often uses other people to help us experience His love in tangible ways. If you've ever struggled to let people see the real you, wondered how to find deeper community, or wrestled with extending grace to difficult people, this conversation is for you.What We Learned* Grace is not just a one-time gift at salvation—it is the environment in which we live the entire Christian life.* Receiving grace often feels harder than giving grace because it requires surrendering control and self-righteousness.* High-trust relationships are built through small acts of vulnerability that gradually establish trust.* Many people avoid being fully known because they fear what others will think if they see their struggles and weaknesses.* Being "first on the beach" means risking vulnerability before knowing how others will respond.* Grace allows us to own our mistakes without letting them define our identity.* Difficult people often act out of fear, wounds, and self-protection rather than malice.* The more deeply we experience God's grace toward us, the easier it becomes to extend grace to others.Resources MentionedThe Cure by John Lynch, Bruce McNicol, & Bill Thrall Dr. T.A. Powell - Beyond the MaskMarcus Warner - Deeper Walk International Unoffendable by Brant Hansen Trueface Retreat 2026Trueface Life App App StoreGoogle [email protected] Produced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.com Support the show

May 24, 2026 • 52min
Sabbatical, Burnout & the Future of Discipleship // Robby Angle
Robby shares a personal and ministry update as Trueface enters a major new season. We talk through family life with eight kids, preparing for his first sabbatical, the emotional and mental exhaustion that comes from leading through growth, and the deeper vision behind GROW — a new discipleship initiative designed to help churches create authentic transformation and relational discipleship at scale.We also unpack the tension many churches feel around discipleship today: why “know more, do better” keeps people stuck, how grace reshapes spiritual growth, and why authentic community may become one of the church’s greatest opportunities in the years ahead. Along the way, Robby shares stories about the Trueface team, future projects, the upcoming Path album, and why this season feels both overwhelming and deeply hopeful.What We LearnedDiscipleship is the process of growing in love of God and others.Most churches struggle to define effective discipleship and develop enough healthy leaders.“Know more, do better” creates striving, while “trust and receive” produces transformation.Authentic community is becoming increasingly rare — and increasingly necessary.Leadership culture shapes spiritual growth more than systems or programming.Robby believes the church has a unique opportunity to meet the next generation’s longing for real connection.Sabbatical is not just physical rest — mental and spiritual rest matter too.Transformation happens when we replace lies with truth in the context of relationships.Resources MentionedTrueface Journey The Path RightNow Media | Streaming Video Library of Bible Studies Christian Family Camps in Texas & South Carolina | Pine Cove Refuge Foundation — Pure Charity Grow Disciples Conference The War of Worldviews by Jamie WinshipMy First Thirty Quiet Times by Ty SaltzgiverLive Loved by Ty SaltzgiverProduced by Sound of a Rose — https://soundofarose.comSupport the show


