

Israel’s war with Iran: what does it want?
65 snips Jun 17, 2025
Julian Borger, The Guardian's senior international correspondent based in Tel Aviv, shares insights on the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran. He discusses the unclear objectives behind Israel's recent military actions and the rising civilian casualties. The conversation dives into the delicate military balance, the potential implications of U.S. involvement, and the impact of regional players like Russia and China. Borger also reflects on the internal security challenges Israel faces and the unresolved Palestinian issues that threaten long-term stability.
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Shift to War of Attrition
- Israel's war with Iran has evolved beyond targeting nuclear sites to include city-wide bombing and evacuation orders.
- This marks a shift towards a destructive, prolonged war of attrition with an unclear end goal.
Tehran Under Siege and Panic
- Iranians experience terror under constant Israeli drone surveillance and missile attacks, triggering mass Tehran evacuations.
- This marks a return to wartime fears unseen since the 1980s Iran-Iraq war.
Israel's Upper Hand and War Aims
- Israel holds aerial superiority and conducts bombing with minimal opposition but Iranian missiles still penetrate.
- Israel’s expanding targets suggest aims beyond nuclear deterrence, possibly regime change in Tehran.