The David Frum Show The Courts Won’t Save Democracy From Trump
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Jul 9, 2025 George Conway, a former litigator and outspoken Trump critic, joins for a compelling discussion on the fragility of legal institutions in the Trump era. He shares his transformation from corporate attorney to activist, highlighting the unsettling reality that courts may fail to curb executive overreach. Conway emphasizes Congress's shortcomings in upholding its constitutional duties and critiques the judiciary's capability to rein in a president who disregards the law. This conversation sheds light on the broader implications of legislation impacting American rights and the economy.
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Conway's Legal Career and Trump View
- George Conway was a top corporate lawyer who rejected a DOJ job under Trump after voting for him.
- He diagnosed Trump as a narcissistic sociopath unfit for fiduciary public office and pushed for impeachment or removal.
Law Firms' Trump Capitulation Backlash
- Law firms initially caved to Trump fearing loss of lucrative merger approvals but later faced backlash.
- Firms learned resisting Trump is vital to reputation and client trust in legal defense.
Misplaced Praise for Law Obedience
- Obedience to law isn't a mark of virtue for presidents but a basic duty.
- Trump's defenders wrongly praise him for obeying courts after repeated violations and contempt.
